1 00:00:05,030 --> 00:00:02,389 discovery this houston are you ready for 2 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:06,630 coverage 3 00:00:12,150 --> 00:00:09,040 abc news this is houston please call 4 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:12,160 discovery for voice check 5 00:00:18,230 --> 00:00:14,320 discovery it's vic ratner from abc have 6 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:21,510 discovery has you loud and clear how us 7 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:25,119 loud and clear nice to see you all 8 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:26,880 commander lindsay i just heard the call 9 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:30,240 from mmt that you're clear for re-entry 10 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:32,000 how sad does it make you that you can't 11 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:38,950 you know i think it makes all of us sad 12 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:41,200 we've we've had a fantastic mission 13 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:42,559 we've accomplished all of our mission 14 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:44,160 objectives plus a whole bunch we never 15 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:45,520 thought we would get 16 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:47,920 been extended a couple of days and would 17 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:49,760 love to be extended longer but 18 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:51,280 unfortunately we're running out of 19 00:00:54,869 --> 00:00:52,960 supplies up here and it's time to come 20 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:54,879 home but we're all sad that this is our 21 00:00:59,189 --> 00:00:56,879 last day in orbit and we're sad that 22 00:01:00,790 --> 00:00:59,199 this is the last day uh potentially for 23 00:01:03,029 --> 00:01:00,800 discovery unless we weather wave off or 24 00:01:04,630 --> 00:01:03,039 something like that 25 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:04,640 for folks who've never had this 26 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:07,040 experience could you stay up there for a 27 00:01:11,109 --> 00:01:08,880 couple of days more you've got enough 28 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:11,119 food supplies things like that nasa 29 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:19,510 well we have uh enough food for a uh you 30 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:21,040 know probably 31 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:23,119 several more days if we had to and we 32 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:24,640 have water but 33 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:27,920 in terms of our cryo which is our oxygen 34 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,360 and hydrogen that we use to generate 35 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:31,759 power and uh and provide air and things 36 00:01:34,069 --> 00:01:33,200 like that 37 00:01:39,270 --> 00:01:34,079 we 38 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:39,280 day plus uh two additional days to 39 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:41,119 accomplish to deal with any weather 40 00:01:44,710 --> 00:01:43,119 issues we might have so we have plenty 41 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:44,720 of plenty of margins to stay up here 42 00:01:51,429 --> 00:01:49,830 for commander lindsay and a couple of 43 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:51,439 other crew members tell us something 44 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:54,000 about discovery that we don't know what 45 00:01:58,389 --> 00:01:56,560 are the quirks of this particular ship 46 00:02:00,069 --> 00:01:58,399 where does it make noises in the middle 47 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:00,079 of the night did you find anything 48 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:01,840 tucked in the compartments you didn't 49 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:08,070 well the one thing i will tell you about 50 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:10,879 discovery is uh discovery's been flying 51 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:13,760 since 1984 this is her 39th mission into 52 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:14,720 space 53 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:18,080 and uh we've been flying up here for uh 54 00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:21,440 12 13 days now and there is not a single 55 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:24,640 thing wrong with her every single system 56 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:26,959 and every piece of every system is 57 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:29,120 working uh just like it was brand new 58 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:30,720 and that's probably something people 59 00:02:35,110 --> 00:02:32,080 would be surprised to hear about a 60 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:35,120 vehicle that's uh i guess over 25 years 61 00:02:48,550 --> 00:02:42,229 you know sometimes people who do 62 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:50,390 sorry about that i think um i'll 63 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:52,160 continue along steve's line there and 64 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:53,519 that um 65 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:55,280 in addition to the systems operating 66 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:56,480 beautifully 67 00:03:00,229 --> 00:02:58,400 you look around um whether you're on the 68 00:03:02,309 --> 00:03:00,239 flight deck or the mid deck or even out 69 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:02,319 into the payload bay and on the outside 70 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,319 of the vehicle and it and it really does 71 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:06,560 look brand new you get that sense that 72 00:03:11,270 --> 00:03:08,480 you know that maybe we're the first uh 73 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:11,280 ones to travel on her and um 74 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:13,599 we've tried to treat her well and she 75 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:20,149 and i think i was reading your mind 76 00:03:24,309 --> 00:03:21,840 there i was thinking about people who 77 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:24,319 renovate and restore old vehicles and 78 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:26,560 keep them in really pristine condition 79 00:03:30,309 --> 00:03:28,239 well that's discovery but she doesn't 80 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:30,319 just look good in in order to fly into 81 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:32,560 space and do the mission that discovery 82 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:35,200 does she has to be really pristine and 83 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:37,680 really perform well and everything i've 84 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:39,360 seen on this my first shuttle flight is 85 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:41,200 that discovery is just really at the top 86 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:49,190 commander lindsey that raises the 87 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:51,360 question there are air force tankers 88 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:53,920 that are flying that are older than the 89 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:55,760 crew members who fly them 90 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:57,920 if money and time were not factors how 91 00:04:05,750 --> 00:03:59,519 much longer do you think discovery could 92 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:07,750 well that's a really good question and i 93 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:09,200 don't know you know we'd have to go back 94 00:04:14,309 --> 00:04:12,000 and look at and see what we would 95 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:14,319 need to keep these vehicles flying a lot 96 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:16,720 longer i know uh you know prior to 97 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:18,400 columbia we were talking about flying 98 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:21,359 shuttles through 2020 to 2025. 99 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:22,400 we'd probably have to go back and look 100 00:04:26,469 --> 00:04:24,639 at the systems recertify the systems 101 00:04:29,189 --> 00:04:26,479 make sure everything was okay probably 102 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:29,199 do some work on them but it's really 103 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:30,960 hard to say how long they could fly it 104 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:32,880 all depends on how much work you want to 105 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:34,320 do on them but i think we could fly them 106 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:35,919 for a lot longer if 107 00:04:41,510 --> 00:04:39,120 as you said the resources and and 108 00:04:43,030 --> 00:04:41,520 and the uh and we we didn't want to go 109 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:43,040 in a different direction 110 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:48,150 anything that you would have liked to 111 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:49,600 have done on this mission that you 112 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:00,150 i think probably the one thing that i 113 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,320 think everybody that comes off of every 114 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:04,960 flight is you can't get enough window 115 00:05:08,310 --> 00:05:06,960 time you can't get enough time looking 116 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:08,320 at the earth it doesn't matter how many 117 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:10,240 times you've gone around the earth and i 118 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:11,680 have some veterans here with me that 119 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:14,080 have spent three to six months on orbit 120 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:15,520 you never get tired of looking at the 121 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:17,039 earth and it seems like on these 122 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:19,280 missions you're so busy you never get 123 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:22,240 enough time enough passes to actually 124 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:24,479 you know really get good looks all over 125 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:26,000 the earth and so that's something i 126 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:28,400 think we always come back wishing we had 127 00:05:37,029 --> 00:05:35,189 let me ask you a secret are you guys 128 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:37,039 going to leave any secret messages 129 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:38,479 tucked into compartments aboard 130 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:39,919 discovery for the folks at the 131 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:47,830 no we're not going to do that we want to 132 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:50,000 we want to leave discovery 133 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,560 exactly as she was so that when people 134 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:54,240 have an opportunity 135 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:56,319 to visit discovery someplace where every 136 00:06:05,590 --> 00:05:58,560 all the public can go see discovery we 137 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:07,590 and what's it going to say on the plaque 138 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:10,720 at smithsonian about discovery's 139 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:20,150 i don't know what the i don't know what 140 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:22,400 the plaque is going to say um but 141 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:24,000 hopefully it will uh talk about 142 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:26,479 discovery's legacy as a as a great ship 143 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:28,720 of exploration as a as a great 144 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:31,199 spacecraft as a class of spacecraft with 145 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:33,919 capabilities of lifting people and loads 146 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:36,160 and returning them from space 147 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:37,840 unmatched by anything else that we've 148 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:39,919 ever seen the versatility that's 149 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:41,360 unmatched of anything else we've ever 150 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:43,759 seen in space and probably 151 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:46,240 unmatched for a long long long time time 152 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:47,759 to come so hopefully it will say 153 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:49,280 something about that 154 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:51,360 uh but more importantly hopefully it 155 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:54,720 will talk about not the cruz not us but 156 00:06:59,589 --> 00:06:57,280 talk about the uh the entire space 157 00:07:02,469 --> 00:06:59,599 shuttle team that spans across the 158 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:02,479 country for these past 30 years that 159 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:04,240 have allowed this to happen you see us 160 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:05,919 in space we're visible 161 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:07,759 but it takes a team of thousands and 162 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,240 thousands and thousands of people to uh 163 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:12,560 to keep this vehicle running to allow to 164 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:14,400 execute the complex missions that we do 165 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:16,319 within so hopefully the legacy will be 166 00:07:24,790 --> 00:07:23,029 last thoughts when you bring it in 167 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:24,800 tomorrow 168 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:33,430 i think as a crew um what we'll be 169 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:35,199 thinking as we're coming in is we'll be 170 00:07:39,749 --> 00:07:37,680 pretty focused on uh doing in that and 171 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:39,759 doing it right and so 172 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:41,280 we're going to concentrate on our jobs 173 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:44,240 like just like like we should make sure 174 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,080 we don't miss any steps make sure we do 175 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:48,240 everything exactly right and bring it in 176 00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:51,360 as safely and successfully as possible 177 00:07:55,510 --> 00:07:53,120 after we land that's that'll be the time 178 00:07:57,270 --> 00:07:55,520 which will reflect and i suspect 179 00:07:59,270 --> 00:07:57,280 sitting on the runway i'll be sitting in 180 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:59,280 my seat when we do the last switch throw 181 00:08:02,309 --> 00:08:01,120 and it's time for me to get out and i 182 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:02,319 don't think i'm going to want to leave 183 00:08:09,909 --> 00:08:08,230 well put 184 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:09,919 safe return folks 185 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:17,430 thank you 186 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:19,350 discovery this is houston acr that 187 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:21,440 concludes the abc news portion of the 188 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:22,319 event 189 00:08:26,950 --> 00:08:24,160 please stand by for a voice check from 190 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:26,960 cbs news 191 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:30,879 at the kennedy space center how do you 192 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:37,430 discovery has you loud and clear how us 193 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:39,039 sound great and good morning this is 194 00:08:42,709 --> 00:08:40,959 peter king along with bill harwood and 195 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:42,719 we've got a whole slew of questions for 196 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:44,480 you so we'll get right to it uh 197 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:46,320 commander lindsay you've probably said 198 00:08:49,509 --> 00:08:47,920 we probably reported everything that can 199 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:49,519 possibly be said about this being the 200 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:51,839 last flight for discovery for somebody 201 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:54,160 who flies these things for a living how 202 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:56,480 hard is it to retire a spacecraft that 203 00:09:04,949 --> 00:08:58,560 seemingly has a lot of life left in her 204 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:06,630 i guess 205 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:09,519 it's it's very uh it's gonna be sad when 206 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:11,200 it's over when we land tomorrow or the 207 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:16,310 i guess i guess the hardest 208 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:18,880 the hardest part of this for me is uh is 209 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:21,120 giving up the capability because if you 210 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:23,279 really look look at what this spacecraft 211 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:24,240 does 212 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:26,320 it can do everything except leave low 213 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:29,680 earth orbit uh it's a science laboratory 214 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:31,839 we can talk with space stations we we 215 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:34,240 helped build we did build build the us 216 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:36,080 segment of the us 217 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:38,240 os section of the international space 218 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:40,080 station with these vehicles 219 00:09:45,030 --> 00:09:43,360 hauled cargo and people up and down 220 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:45,040 with up mass and down mass that's 221 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:47,440 unmatched anywhere 222 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:48,240 we've 223 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:50,080 deployed the hubble space telescope with 224 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:52,640 this vehicle it starts out its life as a 225 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:54,959 rocket becomes an orbiting laboratory or 226 00:09:59,670 --> 00:09:57,440 docking vehicles maneuverable spacecraft 227 00:10:01,670 --> 00:09:59,680 on orbit and lands like an airplane and 228 00:10:04,069 --> 00:10:01,680 that capability is unmatched anywhere 229 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:04,079 and probably will be unmatched for many 230 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:06,640 many many years to come and so giving up 231 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:09,360 all of that capability and the amazing 232 00:10:12,949 --> 00:10:11,200 versatility this spacecraft is what's 233 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:12,959 most difficult for me and probably for 234 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:15,200 everybody that's working in the program 235 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:17,519 and along those lines for nicole stott 236 00:10:21,509 --> 00:10:19,200 with so much uncertainty right now the 237 00:10:23,269 --> 00:10:21,519 future of u.s human space flight what 238 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:23,279 are your concerns and what are the 239 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:25,279 things that most excite you about what's 240 00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:33,509 well i think from the concern standpoint 241 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:35,600 right now is just you know i think we're 242 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:38,000 still in this phase of really defining 243 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:40,640 what the next steps are going to be and 244 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:42,240 you know i i look forward to seeing what 245 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:44,959 that is i hold real hope that um we'll 246 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:46,880 be challenging ourselves we'll be doing 247 00:10:51,430 --> 00:10:49,040 you know big things and uh 248 00:10:53,030 --> 00:10:51,440 uh going out of low earth orbit i i 249 00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:53,040 would love to see us go back to the moon 250 00:10:55,910 --> 00:10:54,399 i don't know if that's in the plans or 251 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:55,920 not but um 252 00:11:00,230 --> 00:10:58,240 you know i i hope that that 253 00:11:02,790 --> 00:11:00,240 what will be happening is is is a 254 00:11:05,350 --> 00:11:02,800 challenge and will be um 255 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:05,360 and will be taking us places you know as 256 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:07,120 as much as what you know vehicles like 257 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:08,320 discovery and the space shuttle have 258 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:10,160 done for us and that will be you know 259 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:12,240 learning all kinds of new things and i 260 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:13,760 think that's what makes it exciting as 261 00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:15,839 well is that you know there's plenty of 262 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:18,160 opportunities out there and you know 263 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:19,680 we're a great country that has done 264 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:22,800 really really amazing things with um our 265 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:24,959 space program and i really just hope 266 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:30,710 bill harwood let me ask a couple if i 267 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:32,079 can and i'm gonna keep with the 268 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:34,240 discovery theme obviously i i think a 269 00:11:38,150 --> 00:11:36,000 lot of people you know your mission is 270 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:38,160 the first really concrete sign that the 271 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:40,160 the beginning of the end is finally here 272 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:42,240 for this program and for mike barrett 273 00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:43,519 what do you say to the workforce and 274 00:11:47,829 --> 00:11:46,079 really to all americans on the eve of 275 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:47,839 this this final landing for discovery 276 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:54,629 well hey bill 277 00:11:58,790 --> 00:11:57,040 it's a it's a great question 278 00:12:00,550 --> 00:11:58,800 you know i i think about this space 279 00:12:02,629 --> 00:12:00,560 shuttle fleet like the clipper ships 280 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:02,639 that were strong and fast and powerful 281 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,480 they did their jobs but they were also 282 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:06,480 graceful and beautiful and they conjured 283 00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:09,360 up imagination of foreign travel exotic 284 00:12:13,829 --> 00:12:11,279 places of exploration 285 00:12:15,509 --> 00:12:13,839 and discovery is just an elite member of 286 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:15,519 this elite fleet 287 00:12:19,509 --> 00:12:17,600 and uh you know when the clippers faded 288 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:19,519 it was because there was an alternative 289 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:21,360 there was another ship 290 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:24,000 that was coming in steam power that was 291 00:12:27,990 --> 00:12:26,480 stronger faster perhaps not quite as 292 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:28,000 beautiful 293 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:30,160 we don't have that yet we have the 294 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:32,720 legacy of the clippers in in our shuttle 295 00:12:36,150 --> 00:12:34,480 fleet and it's a legacy that everybody 296 00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:36,160 who's ever touched these vehicles should 297 00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:39,920 be extremely proud of i think the only 298 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:41,680 problem area there is that we just we 299 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:43,920 don't have that follow-on we're not 300 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:46,000 replacing the shuttle with something and 301 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:47,600 i think that's what makes a little bit 302 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:50,079 sad for us but make no mistake when we 303 00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:52,000 bring discovery home it's a time to 304 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:53,920 celebrate i mean the 305 00:12:57,590 --> 00:12:56,399 legacy that this spaceship has has made 306 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:57,600 for herself 307 00:13:01,509 --> 00:12:59,519 uh is just nothing more than cause for 308 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:01,519 celebration she's returned so much 309 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:04,240 science so much experience and the 310 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:05,600 experience that we have crew members 311 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:07,920 have had has just been marvelous and 312 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:09,200 it's again just something that our 313 00:13:13,269 --> 00:13:11,760 country should be very very proud of 314 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:13,279 you know you know when you talk to folks 315 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:14,639 who've worked on the shuttle over the 316 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:16,560 years you know there's almost a sense of 317 00:13:21,190 --> 00:13:18,800 disbelief that it's come to this that 318 00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:21,200 the agency's been told to give up a very 319 00:13:25,509 --> 00:13:24,079 mature operational vehicle arguably as 320 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:25,519 my as the commander said a moment ago 321 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:28,000 the most capable spacecraft ever built 322 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:30,000 in favor of less ambitious vehicles that 323 00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:31,839 have not yet been designed or tested do 324 00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:33,680 any of you guys resent the way this is 325 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:36,079 played out or is this just is it simply 326 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:43,910 well um 327 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:45,600 that's a that's a tough question to 328 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:46,720 answer 329 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:49,600 obviously we have a have a vision or you 330 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:51,760 know we're looking at expanding out of 331 00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:54,800 low earth orbit and so the the objective 332 00:13:59,189 --> 00:13:56,880 as part of retiring the shuttle 333 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,199 uh the plan was to go out of low earth 334 00:14:03,430 --> 00:14:01,440 orbit and uh from from what i'm seeing 335 00:14:04,629 --> 00:14:03,440 so far that's what we still intend on 336 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:04,639 doing so 337 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:06,880 um to to go there with the with the 338 00:14:12,069 --> 00:14:09,920 budget and uh you know the uh 339 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:12,079 what we have right now we really can't 340 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:14,959 afford to do all of that and so uh 341 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:17,440 to to take the next step and get out of 342 00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:19,279 low earth orbit we have to go to a 343 00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:21,279 different type of vehicle to do that and 344 00:14:23,189 --> 00:14:22,240 so 345 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:23,199 um 346 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:25,120 it's it's sad to give this this kind of 347 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:26,959 capability although i think someday in 348 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:28,560 the future we'll probably have similar 349 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:30,720 capability i don't know when that would 350 00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:33,519 be but uh but i but i really 351 00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:35,120 strongly believe in the next step as 352 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:37,519 nicole mentioned earlier to try to uh 353 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:39,279 get out of low earth orbit go to it go 354 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:41,680 to an asteroid go to the moon or or get 355 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:43,360 out and explore the solar system we do 356 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:45,760 need a new vehicle for that 357 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:47,199 thanks and let me ask 358 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:49,279 ask nicole a question you know nicole 359 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:50,560 you worked on the shuttle at the kennedy 360 00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:51,839 space center before you joined the 361 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:53,440 astronaut corps you know better than 362 00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:54,480 most 363 00:14:58,310 --> 00:14:56,399 what an amazing machine 364 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:58,320 discovery is and the other the other two 365 00:15:01,110 --> 00:14:59,920 orbiters what are you know as you look 366 00:15:02,629 --> 00:15:01,120 out the window here in your last full 367 00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:02,639 day in space aboard a shuttle anyway 368 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:04,639 what are your thoughts uh on the eve of 369 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:12,389 well i think certainly there there are 370 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:14,800 the thoughts of um of bringing this 371 00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:16,800 vehicle to you know to wheel stop on the 372 00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:18,959 runway for the last time but 373 00:15:25,269 --> 00:15:19,839 um 374 00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:25,279 you know the team that's associated with 375 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:26,880 this 376 00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:28,079 i think that's really what i'm going to 377 00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:30,399 be thinking about is and and i have been 378 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:32,000 as i as i look out the windows that you 379 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:34,079 know i feel really really blessed to 380 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,680 have had the opportunity to not only 381 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,360 work on 382 00:15:41,509 --> 00:15:39,519 discovery and the other orbiters on the 383 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:41,519 ground but also to 384 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:43,199 you know to just have this opportunity 385 00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,120 to look out the windows and appreciate 386 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:47,279 it from the inside as well 387 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,959 and um 388 00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:50,000 i think 389 00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:51,759 thanks has just continued to come to 390 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,839 mind for me thanking the people on the 391 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:55,839 ground who have taken such meticulous 392 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,800 care 393 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:58,800 of these vehicles and it's in their 394 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,959 bones this this is a passion for them 395 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:02,720 this is not just you know i go to work 396 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:05,040 every day it really is a 397 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:07,680 heart and soul kind of thing and 398 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:08,800 you know i think that's what is coming 399 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,320 down to me 400 00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:12,720 down to for me is is thinking about that 401 00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:14,240 and appreciating 402 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:16,320 just how much has gone into this by you 403 00:16:20,829 --> 00:16:17,920 know this wonderful team of people that 404 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:20,839 has taken such good care of these 405 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:23,279 vehicles it's peter king again this 406 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:25,440 question is for uh eric bo you've got 407 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,800 kids and down the line maybe some 408 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,720 grandchildren on the way 409 00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:30,320 who will only know about the space 410 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:31,920 shuttle from history books and from 411 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,800 video and things on the internet maybe 412 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:36,800 he'll take them to see discovery at the 413 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:39,360 smithsonian or wherever it winds up what 414 00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:41,040 will you tell them about what it was 415 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,069 well i'll tell them that the 416 00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:49,680 discovery in the space shuttle fleet was 417 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,519 a dream is a dream machine it's just 418 00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:53,920 amazing what this vehicle can do 419 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,240 it can launch like a rocket go into 420 00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:58,320 orbit change it into a spacecraft and 421 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:01,040 land as a hypersonic airplane on entry 422 00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:03,360 and what's amazing is just how well she 423 00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:05,839 she sails and it's an honor and 424 00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:07,039 privilege for all of us to get the 425 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:14,549 to the crew of sts-133 uh bill and i 426 00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:16,720 both thank you i think it's really hard 427 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:18,319 for us to believe that this is your last 428 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:21,280 flight but it's been an absolute 429 00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:23,280 pleasure to cover and watch over the 430 00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:24,959 years have a safe trip home and we'll 431 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,750 thank you very much 432 00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:35,909 discovery this is houston acr that 433 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,919 concludes the cbs news portion of the 434 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:40,160 event please stand by for a voice check 435 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:42,320 from the associated press 436 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:44,400 discovery this is the associated press 437 00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:50,789 loud and clear 438 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:52,799 this is marcia dunn speaking to you from 439 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,799 kennedy space center where the skies are 440 00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:56,240 clear today 441 00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:58,880 for commander lindsay wow a tribute from 442 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:00,960 william shatner in live wake up music 443 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:03,280 today the whole country seems to be 444 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:05,919 watching discoveries last flight 445 00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:07,760 i'm wondering can you sense the all the 446 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:10,960 attention that's going on down here and 447 00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:13,360 what's the mood up there for you like 448 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:17,120 and is it all sadness or or 449 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:25,110 well as far as the attention discovery 450 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:27,200 is getting on the ground 451 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:29,840 honestly i have no idea about that we we 452 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:31,280 get we get a little bit of news up here 453 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:32,400 i haven't had time to read it for 454 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:34,720 several days so uh we've been focusing 455 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:36,240 on doing our job so as far as what's 456 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:37,200 going on 457 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:39,760 in terms of attention i have no idea uh 458 00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,360 what we're feeling is we're obviously in 459 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:43,039 our last day of orbit and we're getting 460 00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:44,880 every taking every chance we can to look 461 00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:46,160 out the windows 462 00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:47,280 um 463 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,160 and uh so we're kind of uh kind of sad 464 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,600 at this last day wish we could have a 465 00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:53,600 few more days but it's time for us to 466 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,039 come home 467 00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:57,600 but we're mostly enjoying this last day 468 00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:59,840 getting ready for entry um looking out 469 00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:02,160 the windows and uh and just thinking 470 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:03,919 about the great experience we have and 471 00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:06,160 the success of our mission and uh 472 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:08,640 and we're getting ready now uh uh to 473 00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:11,520 focus on this this final task we have 474 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,000 tomorrow which is to uh do the deorbit 475 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:16,160 prep safely enter safely and then land i 476 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:18,960 think once we land then we'll all have 477 00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:21,280 time to really reflect on what we did 478 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,600 and and that we got to have got to fly 479 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:25,280 this final flight of discovery which is 480 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,600 truly an honor for all of us 481 00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:29,360 well i know you have a tribute of your 482 00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:31,280 own coming up to discovery in several 483 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:33,120 more minutes but perhaps one of you 484 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:35,600 could wax poetic right now what your 485 00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:37,280 thoughts are about discovery in all 486 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:39,039 three space shuttles as the program 487 00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:57,110 i've been uh volunteered to wax poetic 488 00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:58,960 and i don't do it so well you know we've 489 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:01,120 been talking about discovery retiring 490 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:02,320 and uh 491 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,440 the fact that there really isn't a 492 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,600 replacement for the space shuttle and i 493 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,280 kind of look at it that 494 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,360 just as nowadays we look back at the 495 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:11,440 ship rights of the 18th and 19th century 496 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,960 and we look at the ships they built and 497 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:14,320 we still ask questions as to how they 498 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:15,600 did it and how those ships managed to 499 00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:17,440 stay at sea for so long and be 500 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,840 successful and i think when they do get 501 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:21,360 around to building another vehicle that 502 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:23,679 is as capable as the space shuttle 503 00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:24,960 they're going to look back and ask a lot 504 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:27,039 of questions how in the world did the 505 00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:28,400 engineers and technicians and the 506 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:30,320 maintenance people manage to make these 507 00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:32,000 vehicles so incredible that they're 508 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,360 still flying after 39 missions in 25 509 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,360 years it's pretty amazing 510 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,120 and i think that's really going to be 511 00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:41,840 the long-term legacy of this vehicle 512 00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:44,000 thank you along those lines for 513 00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:45,919 anyone on board do you expect the 514 00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:48,159 shuttle program one day to be revered as 515 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,710 i guess it's my turn to wax poetic 516 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:04,960 yes i believe in indeed uh when i talk 517 00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:07,120 to the apollo astronauts the mercury and 518 00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,039 gemini astronauts 519 00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:10,799 they talked us with amazement they look 520 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:12,159 at the complexity of the missions we do 521 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:14,240 now in space and they can't believe that 522 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:16,240 they said they never did anything nearly 523 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,760 as difficult or complex as what we were 524 00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:20,000 doing with the shuttle and like steve 525 00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:20,799 said 526 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:22,880 we won't do anything nearly as complex 527 00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,240 with another vehicle for a very long 528 00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,919 time even if we started today to try and 529 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,360 build a replacement shuttle it might 530 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,440 take 15 to 20 years to get there 531 00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:31,600 there's just been nothing more capable 532 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:34,000 out there to do it so i think that 533 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:34,960 five or 10 years from now they're going 534 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,400 to look back and go how did we ever 535 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,760 build a vehicle that could do all these 536 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,760 things this was a pretty bold and 537 00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,520 audacious thing to put together back in 538 00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:44,000 the 1970s and i just don't know that we 539 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:45,360 have that audacity now to build 540 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,720 something nearly as ambitious as the 541 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,880 shuttle is 542 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:50,559 well if you could keep the mic for a 543 00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:52,240 moment what do you expect it will be 544 00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:54,559 like for you to be part of discovery's 545 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,880 historic return to earth tomorrow and to 546 00:22:03,510 --> 00:21:58,480 be walking away for the ship from the 547 00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:05,350 to be honest like like our commander 548 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:07,039 said i've been more focused on just 549 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:08,720 getting through the mission here 550 00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:10,799 and making sure that we have a safe and 551 00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:12,720 effective return from orbit back to 552 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:15,360 earth to cap off a successful mission 553 00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:17,200 i'll probably give more thought once 554 00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:18,559 we're done when we will stop on the 555 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,559 runway about 556 00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,640 the legacy discovery and the legacy of 557 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:24,480 this particular mission but i just don't 558 00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,760 have a whole lot of deep thoughts about 559 00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:27,679 it right now 560 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,679 dr barry you were so eloquent a few days 561 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,919 ago describing all the historic voyages 562 00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,080 of the ship's name discovery 563 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,159 um put that in perspective for me again 564 00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,480 if you will how will space shuttle 565 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:40,480 discovery stack up against all the other 566 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,830 well that's a great question 567 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,600 there have been ships named discovery 568 00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:51,840 for over four centuries and they've been 569 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:54,159 captained by great people like henry 570 00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,120 hudson and matthew i'm sorry john clerk 571 00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,120 who was on captain cook's second voyage 572 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:00,880 robert falcon scott had a discovery 573 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:03,200 going to the antarctic and i think 574 00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,720 everybody knows that our shuttle fleet 575 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,000 was named after great ships of 576 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,320 exploration we wanted to carry on that 577 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:10,240 heritage the legacy of that name and i 578 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,080 think this discovery has done that with 579 00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:15,039 flying colors and she retires with all 580 00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:16,880 of the honors and dignity do any of 581 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:19,280 those ships that made great discoveries 582 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,760 so i think we salute discovery in that 583 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,039 in that way 584 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,520 with all the accolades that she deserves 585 00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,760 but it also lays out a challenge 586 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,360 what will be the next ship name 587 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:31,039 discovery the next ship to bear this 588 00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:32,720 name hopefully will go further than this 589 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,360 one and make every bit as much of a 590 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,600 contribution to history into discovery 591 00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:39,440 as this ship 592 00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,840 thank you for anyone on board discovery 593 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:43,279 is promised to the smithsonian 594 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,720 institution 595 00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,320 but the decision on where the other 596 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,880 shuttles go will be coming up next month 597 00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:50,640 do any of you wish you were doing the 598 00:24:02,710 --> 00:23:51,760 picking and do you have any 599 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:04,630 i'm really thankful personally that i'm 600 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:06,240 not doing the picking because there are 601 00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:09,520 so many good choices across the country 602 00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,279 so i don't really want any part and i'm 603 00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,640 not going to make a recommendation the 604 00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:14,400 only the only thing i would say about 605 00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:15,440 that is 606 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:17,919 i hope that discovery is displayed in 607 00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:20,880 such a way that the the entire public 608 00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:23,919 can see discovery as we see her and as 609 00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:24,559 the 610 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:37,440 what was it like to live and work on a 611 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:39,760 space shuttle with six or seven people 612 00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,960 uh in in in what's a fairly small space 613 00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,440 and uh how we operated all the things we 614 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,159 did with it so what i hope is that 615 00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,840 wherever it's displayed it's displayed 616 00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:51,919 in such a way that the public can see 617 00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:53,279 the shuttle through 618 00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,000 the the various lenses of all of the 619 00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:58,000 thousands of people across the country 620 00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,520 that worked on the space shuttle program 621 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,440 and get a true picture of what it was 622 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:03,679 like to work on this vehicle to operate 623 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,240 this vehicle from the ground and to 624 00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,080 operate this vehicle from the from the 625 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:10,880 cockpit as we have 626 00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:14,480 well i wish all of you godspeed and 627 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:16,640 godspeed to space shuttle discovery as 628 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,549 thank you very much 629 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:28,870 discovery this is houston acr that 630 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:31,200 concludes the event thank you 631 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,440 thank you abc news cbs news and the 632 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,679 associated press discovery we are now